Friday, September 2, 2011 - 8:31 PM

As President Obama writes the "jobs" speech he has promised to deliver after the summer holiday, he must confront a fundamental question posed for him by none other than the Chairman of his own Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt.
GE is, of course, one of America's and the world's greatest companies, a leader in innovation, technology, and industrial and financial know how that has traditionally been a mainstay of U.S. investment and job creation. When the president consults with Immelt, he is undoubtedly hoping and expecting that GE will take the lead in developing new, cutting edge products and making new U.S. investments to produce them that will create some of the good new jobs the country so desperately needs. Yet, GE's current dealings in China make the company exhibit A for how globalization is presently operating to transfer this development and job creation from the United States (and other countries) to off-shore locations.
For example, in recent public statements, GE has said it is transferring its Synthetic Vision system (enables aircraft landings in extremely low visibility situations) and other leading edge technologies (often developed in part with U.S. government funding) to its joint venture with China's state owned AVIC for production and sale to the state owned aircraft maker now developing the new Chinese commercial airliner that will compete with Boeing in international markets in the future. Of course, most of the associated jobs will also go to China.
But these are precisely the kinds of advanced technologies, products, and jobs that virtually all economists and business leaders, including especially Immelt, say are essential to maintaining America's (and other developed countries') competitiveness and standard of living. This is the "higher ground" to which, as the manufacture of more commoditized products has been moved off-shore, economists and business leaders have endlessly said U.S. based production and employment would move. In fact, it seems that rather than U.S. production and jobs moving to higher ground, the higher ground is being moved to China. The obvious question Obama must ask Immelt is why?
Hopefully Immelt will not make the usual knee jerk argument about labor and production costs being lower in China or about quality and productivity being better. If he does, Obama should immediately ask for his resignation as Chairman of the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness. This argument is complete nonsense in the case of things like avionics. They are not labor intensive. The operating costs of production will not be lower in China than in the United States. Indeed, they may well be higher. Moreover, the quality and productivity will not, at least in the beginning, be as good. On a strictly cost-quality basis under true conditions of free trade these products should be made in the United States and exported abroad in exchange the things which other countries produce more competitively.
The real reason for the AVIC deal is that China has told GE that if it wants to sell to China's state owned aircraft makers it must transfer its technology and production to China. Beijing has made access to the Chinese market conditional upon technology transfer and investment and production in China. Nor is China alone in doing this. It is only imitating what worked for Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and many others. Indeed, GE executives have explained that the time of the "colonial model" of global companies producing in advanced countries for sale in the developing world is over. As GE Vice President John Rice recently told the Washington Post, "what China and many other countries figured out is that that is not a path to long term prosperity. The old days are not working anymore in any country."
That is a revolutionary statement because the rules of the World Trade Organization and of U.S. policy are based on the assumptions of the "old days" free trade model under which countries specialize in production of what they do best and trade for the rest. Since the United States does things like Synthetic Vision best while China excels in things like apparel, leaders like the President expect to trade Synthetic vision modules for shirts and try to create jobs by stimulating development of things like Synthetic Vision. Moreover, the rest of the world to play by these
When Rice and GE say the old days aren't working anymore, they're telling the President to forget about his policies and expectations because GE can't afford to play the game by the established rules when doing so may cause it to lose out under the new China rules.
While GE's thinking is quite understandable, the problem is that when GE does well under China's rules the United States loses out. Obama must get Immelt to tell him what might cause GE to stop playing by China's rules. Should America forget about the "old days" free trade model and start taking the same road as China. Should it at least act to offset the negative impact of the China rules?
Those are the questions Obama must answer if he is to revitalize the U.S. economy and create new, good jobs.
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So what else is new?We have an elite that have zero loyality to this country, it is profit above everything else. So sad for them not too realize that they are selling their progeny down the river their arrogance has clouded their wisdom. They end up thinking "I will be on the top even if I have to rig the system in my favor" What dead end logic.
Gary Sheffer from GE. Clyde Prestowicz has his facts plain wrong.
Contrary to his assertions, we are not transferring Synthetic Vision to AVIC, nor were we forced to localize production to qualify already-existing products for market access in China. While we are not transferring this technology or any other technology that is restricted by the U.S. government, we are establishing a joint venture that has already created hundreds of high-paying jobs in Florida and Michigan and will help protect the future of thousands more.
Through the combination of AVIC’s strengths in hardware and ours in avionics technology, we hope to create a new avionics platform that can compete for inclusion in new aircraft – Chinese-made, as well as European and American.
Gary Sheffer's spin is misleading
So GE is not transferring Synthetic Vision to AVIC. But Sheffer doesn't deny that GE is transferring avionics technology to a Chinese joint venture, i.e. a Chinese entity. Does the JV differ from other companies that have Chinese employees and Communist Party organizations that parallel the surface management structure? If there's a conflict between the Communist Party's and America's interests in that entity, which do you think will prevail? We've seen what happens to technology transferred to China. Whether transferred to AVIC or another Chinese entity. So spare us the spin, Mr. Sheffer. Enjoy the bonus you're getting, and don't worry about selling out your kids' future. By then you'll be long retired, and it will be someone else's problem. Let them eat cake.
reason GE dealings in China make the company
i believe that GE's current dealings in China make the company exhibit A for how globalization is presently operating to transfer this development and job creation from the United States (and other countries) to off-shore locations. is a cheap labor (coffeetableplans,prematureejaculationexercises, tinnitusremedies) not like USA.
consequently there will be transfer of knowledge and capital to china. (windturbinesforthehome,woodworkingideas, blackanddeckertools) btw, considering World Trade Organization and of U.S. policy are based on the assumptions of the old days free trade model under which countries specialize in production of what they do best and trade for the rest. with current situation. is this still relevant? (blancokitchensinks,brauncoffeegrinder, braucoffeemakers)
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. . . and some other corporate leaders live in a different world than we do.
They sit god-like above the vulgar scramble of mere nations, viewing the globe and its resources as numbered pieces they can move at will. Of course, the American gods expect the US -- a mere nation -- to defend their interests via the State Department, Commerce Department and, if required, for the Pentagon to send American youngsters to fight and die to protect their enterprises.
Obama reveals his true political orientation as a de facto "moderate" Republican with this appointment -- as Clinton did with his deregulation -- which set up the current economic collapse.
Obama retained the same team of brigands Clinton and Bush employed to push the interests of the narrow oligarchy that rules us and accelerate the decline of America's middle class.
Once their wages are driven down sufficiently, there will be a Third World population available right here, and those exported jobs can come home.
If the gods permit.
The rock on which Party ideology crashes
... plus of course, that of all the ulteraconservatiove members of Congress. Their view, stated many times daily, is that to solve the current unemployment problems, all that's necessary is removing hampering federal regulations. As we see, remove the hampering government regulations and the only job gain to result will likely be to China -- and other "partners" in globalization. Hard to see how that will resolve domestic joblessness.
yeah, that approach worked out great
with wind turbines we hear
at one point Immelt was apoplectic about it
you MAY hang on to a few "black box" elements but you
export and lose ...
- assembly skills, machining, tool and die, precison TIG, CNC
- inspection and testing skills, QC
- all the upstream feeder supplies and manufacturing
your older "know-how" bank retires without training new young people
within 5-7 years you couldn't manufacture this stuff if you WANTED to
the other half of the equation - keep that $$ offshore
arguably China may be holding the "grapes" of a vast Chinese aerospace
market up in the air ( although it would appear many chinese airports and airlines are struggling)
some analysts paint a considerably more sober picture of the chinese air travel market -
particularly when you consider a very large percentage of the population lives within a much smaller
coastal area of china ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:China_Pop_Density.svg )
and this customer base may be very easily co-opted by downtown-to-downtown high speed trains
that are unaffected by storms, monsoons and air traffic control issues, and are generally much more
reliable in terms of schedules, actual departure and arrival times, and cancellations ( chinese airlines
are notorious for takeoff delays, and outright cancellations
these numbers are approximate and relatively accurate but only offered for illustrative purposes - " The distance between Shanghai and Beijing is 1463 km or approximately 2 hours of flight time ( this does not include travel to and from airports, boarding time, landing and takeoff time ). Tickets are about RMB 1100 yuan ( and add 2 cabfares ). The G train (300 km/hr) ticket (second class seat) for a 5 hour trip ( downtown to downtown ) runs about 555 yuan ( $81 )" - this is a very different ballgame from the pre-HST era for the airlines
and taking a break from the PR flackery - it's one thing to have "500 million" internet users
it's quite another to have 500 million internet users with $$, who aren't students or kids
who can't afford a computer, sitting on an internet cafe on QQ
so what's in it for GE, to run a significant risk of IP and market leadership loss ??
why might GE be so interested in a Chinese JV for a possibly tetchy market ??
- possibly eventual (someday) worldwide sales of Chinese airframes to foreign fleets
but more immediately - keeping significant income offshore ...
"..General Electric, which had a effective federal tax rate of negative 64.1%. The company’s pre-tax earnings from U.S. operations were $5.1 billion but it got a stunning $3.2 billion tax refund, according to the report... General Electric operates 14 subsidiaries in offshore tax-haven countries, where it has built up some $94 billion in unrepatriated profits that will not be subject to U.S. taxation unless those profits are returned to the U.S.."
sales of US built avionics would probably hit the taxable revenue line
sales of Chinese assembled avionics with significant subassembly portions manufactured in Thailand
Malaysia, or even Japan and passed through a tax haven subsidiary would keep that revenue offshore
and if the assemblies or subassemblies were then MFN imported into the US, who could possibly be able
to figure out what the transfer pricing was
if Commerce even had any staff to do it ..
footnote - from wikipedia - GE Aviation Systems
GE Aviation Systems (formerly Smiths Aerospace) is the largest European based aerospace equipment company with its businesses and sales revenues split between Europe and North America. Smiths Aerospace was formerly one of four business units of Smiths Group plc., an engineering company and constituent of the FTSE 100 share index. However, it was announced on January 15, 2007 that Smiths Group was divesting Smiths Aerospace to General Electric for £2.4 billion (US$ 4.8 billion).[2] Smiths Aerospace, which was an important supplier, became an operating subsidiary of GE Aviation. This acquisition reportedly gives the combined unit the clout to resist pricing pressures from its two largest customers, Boeing Commercial Airplanes and Airbus.[2] Analysts further assert that it will enable General Electric to acquire assets similar to those it desired in its failed bid for Honeywell in 2000.[2] GE Aviation closed the transaction on May 4, 2007.
- Its electronic and mechanical systems businesses include integrated modular avionics, flight management and stores management systems, recording and analyzing of voice, video and data. Crew information and mission planning. Other products include power generation and distribution, fuel gauging, management and aerial refueling systems and environmental conditioning. Systems essential to aircraft performance includes flight controls, thrust reversers, landing gear and hydraulic systems.
- The engine component capabilities include engine ring technology, supplying complex gas turbine engine components to every major engine program worldwide.
- The company also operates a global customer services organization that supports 1,500 customers in 140 countries through a network of local centers.
- The company is involved with Boeing's KC-767[4] and F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II, F-22 Raptor, and C-130J Hercules, and the Eurofighter Typhoon. Smiths engine components equip many major military and civil gas turbine engines, providing critical technologies from intake to exhaust.
footnote2 - having Chinese national JV staff posted to management positions in the US and UK subsidiaries
( liaison, coordination, joint engineering ) or rotating thru for training and knowledge transfer should be
interesting to say the least ..
a postscript - and i eat my words
or some of them .. certainly re air travel numbers
to wit - Beijing's third airport may make it an international hub,
a strategic refueling stop for transpolar routes between
Europe/US and Asia , and a natural hub-and-spoke airport for India
Southeast Asia, and Western China / Central Asia ( see below )
with China in control of landing slots , air traffic & safety regulations,
watch them make their usual end-run around the WTO agreements
via regulations, permissions, etc and promote their favorite sons -
Chinese airframe manufacturers, airlines, air traffic control eqpt
as well as the now classic quid pro Ho - you buy Chinese airframes,
you mysteriously obtain landing slots
domestic traffic numbers from the article suggest the Chinese air
domestic travel market may be boomier than what i suggested
my apologies
from the Guardian
Beijing set to become world's busiest aviation hub with
new mega-airport
Proposals for giant third airport could mean 120 million
passengers pass through Chinese capital a year
Beijing is moving to overtake London as the world's busiest
aviation hub with the construction of a third airport that
could have as many as nine runways.
... This follows the inclusion earlier this year of a
new capital airport in the government's latest five-year plan.
... It was only four years ago that the existing airport in the
north of the city opened a huge third terminal ahead of the
Beijing Olympics. Designed by the British architect,
Norman Foster, it was then the world's biggest airport building,
with more floor space than all five Heathrow terminals combined.
But it has filled faster than expected due to the
rapid growth of China's economy.
... Last year, the airport handled 73.9 million passengers.
By 2015, this is expected to rise to 90 million –
12 million more than it was designed for.
Nice job so far.
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Obama retained the same team of brigands Clinton and Bush employed to push the interests of the narrow oligarchy that best microwave rules us and accelerate the decline of America's middle class.
Clyde Prestowitz is the president of the Economic Strategy Institute and writes on the global economy for FP.
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