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This past weekend in Brussels British Prime Minister David Cameron finally ended the half-century- old British debate about whether it wants to be part of Europe or not. Cameron's conclusion, of course, was no.

This is not at all surprising as the Brits have never really had their hearts in the European project. When the European Economic Community (EEC or Common Market) was founded in 1958, Britain was invited to join. Its reply was "thanks, but no thanks." Then in 1972, when the Common Market looked like it was going to be a real success, London changed its mind and was admitted to membership claiming that the place of Britain was at the heart of Europe. But then began a long series of negotiations for special exceptions and conditions for the British, and in the internal debates, the weight of Britain was always thrown on the scales for less economic integration and for absolutely no political integration.

With the fate of the Euro and perhaps that of the European Union (EU) itself hanging in the balance and in the face of the agreement of all 26 of the other EU members on a plan for greater fiscal integration and discipline to combat the present European debt crisis, Cameron used his veto to stop the plan on the grounds that he had not been given sufficient exceptions from the rules to keep the financiers of the City of London happy. This, effectively prevents the other countries from going ahead with the plan and compels them to attempt to implement it through a cumbersome procedure of new treaty negotiation outside the institutions of the EU. In the end, it just may not be possible.

Of course, this doesn't technically mean the UK will be expelled from the EU. But it is difficult to imagine the rest of the EU including the UK in any serious discussions in the future. Thus, the question of wither Britain is very much to the fore.

I suggest that the United States, Canada, and Mexico invite Britain to join NAFTA. We could change its name from the North American Free Trade Area to simply the Northern Free Trade Area or the North Atlantic Free Trade Area. It would make all kinds of sense for Britain since its concepts of unfettered free markets and free trade are much closer to those of the North Americans than they are to the more regulation-oriented and mercantilist concepts of continental Europeans. Britain already does an immense amount of trade with North America and is the alternate center of operations for much of the North American financial industry. It obviously shares a common language with the United States and Canada and its biggest newspaper mogul owns the Wall Street Journal.

Then there is the matter of currency. The final stumbling block for Cameron was the unwillingness of his continental European partners to grant special exceptions that the City deemed necessary to maintain London's place as the world's premier hub of finance. Ironically, however, without really active membership in the EU, the City's future role will be quite uncertain. On top of that, in a world of big currencies like the dollar, the Euro, and, in the future, the Chinese yuan, a small currency like the pound sterling will likely find life increasingly difficult. This problem, however, would be easy to solve if the new Northern Free Trade Area were to adopt a common currency (U.S. dollar and Canadian dollar + Mexican Peso+ Pound Sterling = Dolep).

Of course, the Canadians and Mexicans might not go for this, in which case Washington could offer statehood to Britain, or separately to England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. The U.S. flag would have either 51 or 54 stars and there would never again be any question of the Germans or French or the bureaucrats in Brussels calling the tune in London.

Best of all, this solution would give the United States more time zones than Russia.

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MAINO

4:56 PM ET

December 13, 2011

Britain will never give up sterling

If the last year or so has proved anything, it's that staying outside of currency unions is a pretty good bet. The EU is finished. If anyone actually believes there will be a Euro in 10 years time, they are either self-interested to the point of being unable to make an objective judgement, or utterly delusional. The currency is doomed, and by extension, the EU is as well.

What Mr Cameron did on Friday morning was to not go far enough. He should have told Merkozy that we were going to veto the EU budget until we not only got the kind of safeguards for financial services that the French have for agriculture or the Spanish have for fisheries, but also received opt outs from EU agencies like the External Action Service, and repatriated powers over fisheries and farming.

There is no public appetite to engage in what was once a great and flourishing free trade union, but is now a declining, protectionist, over-regulated, over-taxed Franco-German experiment in extinguishing democracy and prosperity.

NAFTA membership would be an interesting prospect, but membership of the EFTA alone would be preferable. Britain's place in the world is as a small nation, trading with the world, without the shackles of the common external tariff, self-governing and competitive. Which is basically everything the Eurocrats are trying to extinguish.

 

JLINKER613

5:37 AM ET

December 14, 2011

Britain isn't that small in

Britain isn't that small in the grand scheme of things. Considering the City of London is the world's largest financial center, and that Britain is currently the 6th largest economy with a population of some 62 million, along with having one of Europe's stablest birth rates, Britain is likely going to be a big part of global events for the next few decades.

 

MJKT

5:17 PM ET

December 13, 2011

Why stop there?

I would propose leaving Mexico out and just going for some close association of the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. All are very developed democracies. All have much in common in their culture and outlook. I would say the UK has more in common with this grouping of nations than it does Europe. In addition, the US and Canada have more in common and are on a more level basis economically and politically with this grouping of nations than with Mexico.

 

HUDES1725

8:06 PM ET

December 13, 2011

Re: Why Stop There?

I think this may have existed at one time... and it was called the British Empire...

 

MAIWAND

10:45 PM ET

December 13, 2011

Keep on dreaming!!

You seem dreaming of your broken British empire, dont u?? Why ur against Mexicans? Is that because they dont share the English blood?? That is called political racism which English like you tend to hide. Geographically UK does not suit europe anyway. Its an island, separate from the mainstream europe and President Sarkozy rightly said to Mr Cameron : " You wont understand the needs of a common europe because you guys come from a far flung island"...Well said, Sir!

 

ZERGE

8:13 AM ET

December 14, 2011

Sorry buddy, NAFTA is full.

Sorry buddy, NAFTA is full. We Mexicans are an up and coming bunch, and a future power. Check out that TIMBI article here in FP.
There's no space in NAFTA for has-been, old world declining powers :)

And I like Aussies and Kiwis; nice people. But they are waaaay over there somewhere on the other side of the ocean.
And I like Brits too; I was just joking. But seriously, your idea is nuts, and I can only hope it was written in jest, like this article.

 

ANDY54306985409

5:38 PM ET

December 13, 2011

David Cameron threw a tantrum

David Cameron threw a tantrum because he felt like Britain isn’t able to boss everybody around in Europe, why would that attitude suggest that Britain is willing to throw their independence out of the window and relinquish whatever influence they still have over other countries and become a minor, isolated US state? Not to mention that although the US and Britain speak the same language but the cultural differences are enormous. The prospect of joining a country in which same-sex marriage is shunned upon or in which the legality of abortion is still debated or in which capital punishment is still widely practised would make very many Brits shudder.

 

MJKT

5:50 PM ET

December 13, 2011

Tens of Millions of new voters

While I don't think the UK will become one or more US states any time in the foreseeable future, don't you think adding tens of millions of British voters casting ballots in the US might just be enough to push a more progressive US forward? A lot of the things about which you speak are pretty close issues in the US. Adding tens of millions of more liberal voters would probably shift US policies on many things. The peoples living in the British Isles could probably have the most influence on the world by shifting the policies of the world's major superpower from within.

Of course, this is why the US South would probably fight against adding new, liberal states.

 

MAINO

6:38 PM ET

December 13, 2011

ANDY54306985409 you don't get it

Britain has no independence to give away. We are ruled by Brussels bureaucrats and the corrupt European governing elite. There is no more meaningful democracy in Britain. The Mother of All Parliaments has been sold off by successive Labour and Conservative governments. Unelectable, unaccountable European Commissioners (or Commissars as they probably call themselves), have turned Europe into a socialist, anti-democratic hell-hole. Europe's share of World GDP is set to drop off a cliff in the next 10 years, unless we rid ourselves of Brussels and shed our bulbous, cumbersome welfare states. We cannot remain competitive unless we do so.

Your poor analysis clearly reflects in your lack of understanding of what happened on friday. Cameron's demands were so modest, so small, and unbelievably reasonable, particularly considering what was being asked of him by the increasingly dictatorial Merkozy. The fact that these reasonable requests for a level playing field in financial regulation, and for Britain to go further in regulating our banks than currently allowed under European law were denied reflects not on Cameron, but on the fanaticism and inflexibility of Merkozy.

We should be thanking them. Merkozy has driven us to have a significant debate about what type of relationship we want with Europe. Hopefully this will result in Britain exiting the sinking ship.

We made the right choice. We didn't lock ourselves inside the burning Euro-building. The doomed currency. We should not be made to contribute towards rescuing those who ignored basic economic sense, and who are now having to pay for the immense folly that is the Euro.

 

IAMNOTHERE

5:53 PM ET

December 13, 2011

Satire?

You either have a great gift for satire or you know absolutely nothing about the British and how they feel about North America (outside Canada and Mexico). They despise Americans so much that they export what they don't need to the rest of the world - including, but especially Canada and Mexico - inside bite-sized BBC programs. Their least offensive description of Americans is that they're are too ignorant to know that some people hate them.

You are an American, I presume.

 

GRANT

6:13 PM ET

December 13, 2011

I presume this was written at

I presume this was written at least partially in just. The idea of the U.K ever giving up the pound or even considering becoming part of the U.S is laughable enough, but the idea that Republicans would ever accept such a left-leaning nation (relative to the U.S) or that we would accept the monarchy would induce howls of laughter across the Americas.

 

MOE DELAUN

4:21 PM ET

December 16, 2011

"One Nation, Two Systems"

I think we already have two states-in-waiting, and they're both blue as the seas surrounding them. Guam may one day soon ask for statehood so as to have a say in the big Pacific buildup, which would stimulate Puerto Rico to revisit the issue.

I'm sure some gerrymandering of the British Isles would produce suitably ruddy territories. Or perhaps Texas could be convinced to divide into four states. (One of them New Florida, on high ground inland, to accommodate that late state's global-warming refugees.) Californians would try again to segregate themselves into Ecotopia and Greater Orange County.

Jest some thoughts.

 

RETHINKIT

6:42 PM ET

December 13, 2011

Very Funny

Clyde,

You have a great sense of humor. Canada and the US may one day form a new union, but not the UK. The only way this would be possible would be with some sort of very autonomous statehood. Even this is a stretch though. The British love the pound sterling and I doubt they would ever give it up unless it appeared that the Yuan and Dollar dominated international trade to the point that they had no choice as their quality of living would shrink substantially due to a loss of competitiveness in global markets (which I think is unlikely). Lets also admit that Optimal Currency Zones are far harder to objectively form than in theory.

As far as British attitudes towards Americans goes, my experience from living in the UK would suggest that there is a wide variety of opinions out there. The UK liberals would be the hardest to convince. I've always believed that British animosity toward Americans is mostly because the British loath to admit to themselves just how much our two nations are alike. But that doesn't mean they would accept it.

 

MORANI YA SIMBA

6:58 PM ET

December 13, 2011

Very funny

"Washington could offer statehood to Britain, or separately to England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland."

Once we got to this part, I knew it was a joke. I think it would be the first time in history that a former colony annexed the old mother country (Was Rome ever a part of greater Greece before Greece was a part of the Roman Empire?). Of course, if the Brits are unwilling to join in what is still and may always remain, a rather loose confederation like the EU, the thought of Old England submitting to a tight and perpetual federation like the US is zero or below.

It is also interesting that Prestowitz implicitly criticizes the "mercantilist" attitude of continental Europe when he often advocates an "industrial policy" for the US. The EU as a whole has a considerable trade deficit with the rest of the world, so it isn't hard to guess that Prestowitz is thinking of ze Germans there. Germany's macro-economic philosophy is far closer to that of East Asia than to that of America and Britain. But it doesn't really mean they are against "free trade" any more than other countries. Because free traders tend to forget that the minute two countries have different minimum wages, there is no "free" trade. The playing field is tipped. And, finally, if Germany has an industrial policy, Prestowitz himself argues in his book "the betrayal of American prosperity" that America did too when it was a growing industrial power.

 

MOE DELAUN

4:11 PM ET

December 16, 2011

The quantum states of nation-states

Actually, there is one example: the United Kingdom of Portugal, Brasil and the Algarves (1815-1822), which was ruled from Rio de Janiero for six of its seven years of life.

The notion of the Anglosphere is a fascinating one, touching as it does on the colonial past and the commonalities it sowed. The "special relationship" is over a century old now, and the only real cloud on the US-Canada horizon is water. Hong Kong and Singapore are key nodes of the Anglosphere and enjoy much of their success to its common cultural features. India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Fiji, also nominally part of the Anglosphere, do not (yet). France, Germany, Turkey, Japan, South Korea and Chile are part of the Free World but not the Anglosphere. (The Francosphere may yet rise in prominence with the development of West Africa and the importance of the Pacific.)

Then there's grim old George Orwell, who placed Winston Smith in an Eastern Bloc-like "Oceania" formed from the merger of the US and UK...

 

JLINKER613

5:34 AM ET

December 14, 2011

States? Really?

The idea that the United Kingdom would become part of the United States is ridiculous. Britain giving up the pound is just as ludicrous. I could maybe see them in NAFTA, but nothing more than that; and even joining NAFTA is a stretch.

The economic benefits are logical, and American and Canadian economic policies are closer in line to British policies than European ones are, but I'd imagine Britain would likely prefer to be on its own.

 

SABREMESH

11:32 PM ET

December 15, 2011

New currency: The Anglo

An entertaining article. I think the UK (and its constituent parts) will always prefer the idea of a looser political alliance. Of course, if the USA was to send Queen Elizabeth a big (I mean HUGE) bunch of flowers and ask to be readmitted to the fold, we might consider it.

The issue of a new currency is an interesting one, and a common currency throughout the Anglosphere (US, Canda, UK, and heck Aus, NZ etc) would have some advantages over, say, a currency area which has umpteen different languages and very different political and fiscal outlooks. This new currency would of course be called the Anglo or Anglodollar.

 

MIKEHAAS

4:01 PM ET

December 16, 2011

The Apple Cart

Does Prestowitz remember George Bernard Shaw's "The Apple Cart"? It's time for the play to be made into a film!

 

MARINKANOVA

4:17 PM ET

January 9, 2012

What Mr Cameron did on Friday

What Mr Cameron did on Friday morning was to not go far enough. He should have told Merkozy that we were going to veto the EU budget until we not only got the kind of safeguards for financial services that the French have for agriculture or the Spanish have for fisheries, but also received opt outs from accidentlawyers EU agencies like the External Action Service, and repatriated powers over fisheries and farming.

 

Clyde Prestowitz is the president of the Economic Strategy Institute and writes on the global economy for FP.

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